Guild Wars Forums - GW Guru
 
 

Go Back   Guild Wars Forums - GW Guru > The Hall of Knowledge > The Campfire > Warrior

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Aug 03, 2011, 10:47 AM // 10:47   #1
Frost Gate Guardian
 
TiagoS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Advertisement

Disable Ads
Default Warrior and blind? It sucks

Hey,

I recently start to develop my war char and become really interested in the core idea of the profession.

However, in RA, i am getting owned by "pro's" with that blind spam.

My question is: Is there any viable option to counter blind?

Ive thought of Antidote Signet, It does the job and 1sec isnt that much.

Plz don't suggest draw conditions on monk or ff on necro. Also, don't mention the runes and insc for shield. I know all that, but it isnt effective to counter BLIND

Last edited by TiagoS1; Aug 03, 2011 at 11:54 AM // 11:54..
TiagoS1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 03, 2011, 11:48 AM // 11:48   #2
Krytan Explorer
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: UK
Guild: Gil Worz Is Srs [Bsns]
Profession: W/
Default

Sight Beyond Sight? Can't maintain it but it would give you an opening to kill the source of the blind.
Outerworld is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 03, 2011, 12:17 PM // 12:17   #3
Desert Nomad
 
Bristlebane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Profession: Mo/
Default

Purifying Veil, but it will drop your energy regen by -1. But maybe ok for an adrenaline-build.
Plague Touch, or Plague Sending if you prefer range and rather pay with a bit hp rather than energy. Personally I would go for Plague Sending and send the blindness right back at blind spammer's melee/bow/spear allies.

Also consider Antidote Signet, it can remove up to four conditions every 5 seconds (incl. activation time) and it won't drain your energy.

Last edited by Bristlebane; Aug 03, 2011 at 12:21 PM // 12:21..
Bristlebane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 03, 2011, 12:53 PM // 12:53   #4
Desert Nomad
 
Squishy ftw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Your backline
Profession: W/
Default

You already said it: rune + shield and if you really find it necessary, antidote sig.
Squishy ftw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 03, 2011, 01:00 PM // 13:00   #5
Frost Gate Guardian
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Finland
Guild: Victory is a four letter word [quit]
Profession: W/
Default

Monk with Draw Conditions?
Mending Touch, cheap and useful.
Millenium Warriorr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 03, 2011, 01:04 PM // 13:04   #6
PRO
Academy Page
 
PRO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: LOD倧
Default

if you are running -20% rune and have a shield on switch that -20% blind, they cant keep it on you 100% unless its a bsurge ele, or multiple blinders... in that case ur screwed, and thats why ra is a team of 4 not 1.

You can run something like sight beyond sight, but id say just suck it up the matches ur 100% blind, warriors are pretty much the most powerful class imo, thats why everyone brings a lot of meele hate
PRO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 03, 2011, 01:22 PM // 13:22   #7
Frost Gate Guardian
 
TiagoS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Default

I am giving up on shield + rune protection only. It is not enough. I keep being blinded as hell.

Never thought of purifying veil, but i wanted to save my energy.

Also, I am running 13strength 14hammermastery so Plague Touch or Plague Sending are not that good cause they only take 1 condition out.

Sight beyond sight and Antidote Signet seem like the best option to rape that eles.
TiagoS1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 03, 2011, 01:35 PM // 13:35   #8
Academy Page
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Profession: W/
Default

Well if you really need something to remove blind I think antidote signet is the best. But anyway I think you donÂŽt need it. Few tips. DonÂŽt auto attack Bbot, because he will usually perma blind you. Attack someone else after you fill your adrenaline kd ele, with your un-conditional kd (dev/es) w8 for a sec so he gets up and tries to put blind. Now you have to be fast and use hammer bash to interrupt his skill. Now you have around 5 sec to attack him and then swap to -blind shield so you are blinded for only 4s (swap to blind set before he has his b-flash recharged or it wonÂŽt work) . I usually do this and it mostly works. I hope you know what I am trying to say (english isnÂŽt my mother language).

Last edited by blazob; Aug 03, 2011 at 01:41 PM // 13:41..
blazob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 03, 2011, 01:40 PM // 13:40   #9
Frost Gate Guardian
 
TiagoS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by blazob View Post
Well if you really need something to remove blind I think antidote signet is the best. But anyway I think you donÂŽt need it. Few tips. DonÂŽt auto attack Bbot, because he will usually perma blind you. Attack someone else after you fill your adrenaline kd ele, with only one dev/es w8 for a sec so he tries to put blind on you and fast use hammer bash so you rupt his skill. Now you have around 5 sec to attack him and then swap to -blind shield so you are blinded for only 4s and ele is almost dead. I usually do this and I mostly works. I hope you know what I am trying to say (english isnÂŽt my mother language).
Thanks for your answers. But, please, don't take me as a noob.
I know auto-attacking the spammer doesn't help. I know i should (try to ) rupt him, weapon swap to -20% blind etc etc. But all of this doesn't seems efficient at all. While you wait 5 seconds for blind to go away, their Derv rapes your Monk.
TiagoS1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 03, 2011, 01:41 PM // 13:41   #10
Forge Runner
 
Reverend Dr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]
Profession: W/
Default

Game ain't balanced around RA. Get over it.
Reverend Dr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 03, 2011, 01:43 PM // 13:43   #11
Frost Gate Guardian
 
TiagoS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverend Dr View Post
Game ain't balanced around RA. Get over it.
So, let's all play mesmers and monks? Is that the point?
TiagoS1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 03, 2011, 01:45 PM // 13:45   #12
Forge Runner
 
cataphract's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Ashford Abbey
Guild: Hey Mallyx [icU]
Profession: Mo/Me
Default

Well, you can always try to trick them into thinking you're an idiot. Go W/E and equip a staff on weapon set 4. Wand their monk and then run away from their melee. Once they're not paying attention to "that drooling retard wamo" you sprint in from behind and catch them with their pants down.

Also, try dancing when they blind you and type "AFK" in local.

Victory is not always achieved by brute froce but most often with cunning and stealth.
cataphract is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 03, 2011, 01:54 PM // 13:54   #13
PRO
Academy Page
 
PRO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: LOD倧
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cataphract View Post
Well, you can always try to trick them into thinking you're an idiot. Go W/E and equip a staff on weapon set 4. Wand their monk and then run away from their melee. Once they're not paying attention to "that drooling retard wamo" you sprint in from behind and catch them with their pants down.

Also, try dancing when they blind you and type "AFK" in local.

Victory is not always achieved by brute froce but most often with cunning and stealth.
made me laugh

but seriously, if some one is keeping blind on you 24/7 they may be disabling you, but they are basically disabled themselves. the odd chain lightning wont do much when the ele is spaming bsurge and blinding flash. just have to hope u have 3 people on your team that can match thier other 3
PRO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 03, 2011, 05:24 PM // 17:24   #14
Desert Nomad
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Guild: Anna
Profession: A/
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TiagoS1 View Post
So, let's all play mesmers and monks? Is that the point?
Sad but that's the truth considering their updates.... People are just playing for the title and strongboxes, that's pretty much why you will see 50% of RA players running El/W invoke...

But, you should just run hammer warrior with sight beyond sight...
Missing HB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 03, 2011, 06:47 PM // 18:47   #15
Frost Gate Guardian
 
TiagoS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Missing HB View Post
Sad but that's the truth considering their updates.... People are just playing for the title and strongboxes, that's pretty much why you will see 50% of RA players running El/W invoke...

But, you should just run hammer warrior with sight beyond sight...
Thanks. /12char
TiagoS1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 04, 2011, 12:24 PM // 12:24   #16
Forge Runner
 
Reverend Dr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]
Profession: W/
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TiagoS1 View Post
So, let's all play mesmers and monks? Is that the point?
You are bitching about a 1v1 matchup in a team based game. Unless the ele is terrible, the the invoke ele is going to win over a warrior every time. This is dealt with by having a team that synergizes with each other, not by trying to outbuild every 1v1 matchup. Kind of hard to get that synergistic team what with the random party matchups, such is RA, such is why trying to balance the game around it is idiotic.
Reverend Dr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 04, 2011, 02:17 PM // 14:17   #17
Grotto Attendant
 
superraptors's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Profession: W/
Default

lol ra is grief central, expect to be hated on EVERY role you play, melee recieves the most hate, necros - faint, insidious, mesmers - blackout empathy, eles - nuf said, rits- gaze beyond blind was mingsong, block stances, and many more.

tbh id rather not run any removal and just pray to god you will get a monk or a couple of supports with a brain, its just not worth playing if you are removing stuff off every few seconds.
superraptors is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 04, 2011, 02:33 PM // 14:33   #18
Frost Gate Guardian
 
TiagoS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Default

Yesterday i brought Antidote Signet. I got a blinder in the first match with Bsurge and Bflash.

That skill was my salvation, i got blind, i used signet, i killed their monk, they ressed him, i got blind, i used signet, i killed their monk,they ressed him, i got blind, i used signet, i killed their monk

Of course i won't always get a blinder against me, but that skill removes other conditions too. Can remove important ones on a hammer war such as cripple and weakness.
TiagoS1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 09, 2011, 05:53 PM // 17:53   #19
Krytan Explorer
 
Sciros Darkblade's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Ohio
Guild: Archons Ascendant [Arch] - Leader
Profession: W/
Default omg u n00bz

Illusonary Waponree!

Oh a more serious note, why not just go W/N, plague sig their melee or ranger or pet or whatever and go to town on someone other than whoever is spamming blind?

Antidote Sig is also good. I wouldn't worry too much about blind; it's one of the few things that's in your control in GW, so it shouldn't be as frustrating as all that.
Sciros Darkblade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 09, 2011, 06:04 PM // 18:04   #20
Tea Powered
 
Xenomortis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: UK
Profession: N/
Default

Playing a Warrior without Monk support is going to suck; very little that can be done about it if you actually want to achieve something.
Considering that a lot of the time you won't have a Monk in RA, then my advice is 'don't play a Warrior in RA'. That said, when you do get some support you can really start to hurt people.
Xenomortis is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share This Forum!  
 
 
           

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:22 PM // 12:22.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
jQuery(document).ready(checkAds()); function checkAds(){if (document.getElementById('adsense')!=undefined){document.write("_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'Adblock', 'Unblocked', 'false',,true]);");}else{document.write("